Comments on: Geek Rant: What Was The True Fate of Harvey Dent in ‘The Dark Knight’? http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/ Stuff by geeks, about geeks, for geeks. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:45:20 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Big Boss http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-798590 Big Boss Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:22:03 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-798590 I'm sure he is dead and that It was the intentions of the filmmakers. I myself believes he is dead. BUT as a screenwriter and film student, I see that they did it in a way where it left it open for a Two-Face reprisal. That's exactly how I'll would have written it. Hear me out. 1. The fall wasn't that extreme for him to die. Lets say it did. If everything in this movie was based on realism, then the burns he sustained would have resulted in his death. They are way beyond 3rd degree. My sister is in the medical field and even she confirmed this. He wouldn't have survived too long after the incident. For all we know he fell, and landed in a freakin coma. 2. Most of the movie displayed Harvey Dent, not Two-Face. In a way the movie shows the origin of Two-Face. He's not the villain yet. 3. Listen to the conversation between Gordan and Batman at the end. They mention the Joker won--referring to Harveys prosecution and all that he stood for had perished. Everything that was done dies with Harveys reputation. Harvey Dent was probably admitted to Arkham Asylum or Blackgate Penitentiary since Arkham was destroyed, somewhat. Blackgate is a prison depicted in the DC Universe located on a small island in the Gotham Bay, which houses those criminals who aren't insane. Two-Face in the comics has been to both. Given Harveys situation I'm sure he would be considered insane or mentally unstable. In fact the true description of this character in the comic is: District Attorney of Gotham City and an ally of Batman who goes insane and becomes the crime boss Two-Face. Anyways in the Dark Knight I'm sure not too many people knew about Harveys disfigured face. And to Harvey, he is dead, theres only Two-face now. I’m sure he is dead and that It was the intentions of the filmmakers. I myself believes he is dead. BUT as a screenwriter and film student, I see that they did it in a way where it left it open for a Two-Face reprisal. That’s exactly how I’ll would have written it. Hear me out.

1. The fall wasn’t that extreme for him to die. Lets say it did. If everything in this movie was based on realism, then the burns he sustained would have resulted in his death. They are way beyond 3rd degree. My sister is in the medical field and even she confirmed this. He wouldn’t have survived too long after the incident. For all we know he fell, and landed in a freakin coma.

2. Most of the movie displayed Harvey Dent, not Two-Face. In a way the movie shows the origin of Two-Face. He’s not the villain yet.

3. Listen to the conversation between Gordan and Batman at the end. They mention the Joker won–referring to Harveys prosecution and all that he stood for had perished. Everything that was done dies with Harveys reputation.

Harvey Dent was probably admitted to Arkham Asylum or Blackgate Penitentiary since Arkham was destroyed, somewhat. Blackgate is a prison depicted in the DC Universe located on a small island in the Gotham Bay, which houses those criminals who aren’t insane. Two-Face in the comics has been to both. Given Harveys situation I’m sure he would be considered insane or mentally unstable. In fact the true description of this character in the comic is: District Attorney of Gotham City and an ally of Batman who goes insane and becomes the crime boss Two-Face. Anyways in the Dark Knight I’m sure not too many people knew about Harveys disfigured face. And to Harvey, he is dead, theres only Two-face now.

]]> By: Crane http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-589863 Crane Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:14:12 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-589863 oh and the wtf part isn't directed towards richie. calm down. oh and the wtf part isn’t directed towards richie. calm down.

]]> By: Crane http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-589861 Crane Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:12:48 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-589861 Excuse me what the fuck? What the fuck are you talking about? Dent is dead (thx richie) but Two-Face could still be alive. Do you think Nolan's decision is final? No. Directors change their minds CONSTANTLY until the final script has been set, and the final actors have been casted. Ambiguous is what Two-Face's fall is. No one knows, who could they? Plans have always been changed in Hollywood, and characters whom you thought for sure were dead come back in the sequel and surprised us in a good way. There are much more extreme examples of character resurrection than this, so don't put a stamp on it just yet. Wait three more fuckin years before making assumptions, 'indeck' and 'flint'. Batman 3 will make this question settled, and the decision final, not what you hear from one little interview. Excuse me what the fuck? What the fuck are you talking about? Dent is dead (thx richie) but Two-Face could still be alive. Do you think Nolan’s decision is final? No. Directors change their minds CONSTANTLY until the final script has been set, and the final actors have been casted. Ambiguous is what Two-Face’s fall is. No one knows, who could they? Plans have always been changed in Hollywood, and characters whom you thought for sure were dead come back in the sequel and surprised us in a good way. There are much more extreme examples of character resurrection than this, so don’t put a stamp on it just yet. Wait three more fuckin years before making assumptions, ‘indeck’ and ‘flint’. Batman 3 will make this question settled, and the decision final, not what you hear from one little interview.

]]> By: Emilien http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-589684 Emilien Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:34:14 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-589684 There is no real proof that Two-face in the movie and most of the "he's dead" talk come from outside, even if it's first hand from the director. It was voluntarily left to the open, IMO. Every scene at the end can be interpreted both ways like : -he's not moving= he's dead or unconcious -there is a "memorial"(i think it's the word, i'm not american or english)= is it for the dead man or for the end of his carreer as DA so they can send two-face in Arkham without re-opening his cases. and so on. There was no coffin with tombstone or autopsy. So, till the third (it's a long wait) Two-Face is whatever we want him to be. For me, his still alive. There is no real proof that Two-face in the movie and most of the “he’s dead” talk come from outside, even if it’s first hand from the director. It was voluntarily left to the open, IMO. Every scene at the end can be interpreted both ways like :
-he’s not moving= he’s dead or unconcious
-there is a “memorial”(i think it’s the word, i’m not american or english)= is it for the dead man or for the end of his carreer as DA so they can send two-face in Arkham without re-opening his cases.
and so on.
There was no coffin with tombstone or autopsy. So, till the third (it’s a long wait) Two-Face is whatever we want him to be. For me, his still alive.

]]> By: Richie http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-530283 Richie Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:14:19 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-530283 Indecks is right Dent is dead. BUT Two-face isn't. I have also remained stubborn in the fact that the character, or at least half of him, is still alive. Two-face is one of the cannon villains in the Batman stories, and as such he can't be killed. At least not like this. I like to believe that when everyone was saying he was dead they meant the Harvey Dent character. I can accept that, i mean his funeral was in the movie for petes sake. However i will keep believing that two-face is still out causing ruckus and robbing banks. Anyone with me? Indecks is right Dent is dead. BUT Two-face isn’t. I have also remained stubborn in the fact that the character, or at least half of him, is still alive. Two-face is one of the cannon villains in the Batman stories, and as such he can’t be killed. At least not like this. I like to believe that when everyone was saying he was dead they meant the Harvey Dent character. I can accept that, i mean his funeral was in the movie for petes sake. However i will keep believing that two-face is still out causing ruckus and robbing banks. Anyone with me?

]]> By: JoJo http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-413879 JoJo Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:58:35 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-413879 Its up in the air as far as i see. Maybe dent will be in Arkham .. who knows. Cant blame people for saying "Hes Dead" or "Hes Alive". Directors B.S. a little to cover next movie plots (it happens all the time). So dont bash people on their beliefs. Good post if you ask me. Its up in the air as far as i see. Maybe dent will be in Arkham .. who knows. Cant blame people for saying “Hes Dead” or “Hes Alive”. Directors B.S. a little to cover next movie plots (it happens all the time). So dont bash people on their beliefs. Good post if you ask me.

]]> By: JustinSane http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-413051 JustinSane Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:57:00 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-413051 The statment from the director sounds like a "lets not reveal any plot to the next movie and have it leak onto the net" kind of thing. Killing off one of the main villans would be a REALLY dumb idea, and the Director is really not dumb. The statment from the director sounds like a

“lets not reveal any plot to the next movie and have it leak onto the net” kind of thing.

Killing off one of the main villans would be a REALLY dumb idea, and the Director is really not dumb.

]]> By: DanJW http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-412673 DanJW Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:23:52 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-412673 Wow, there are still people who use all-caps? It's difficult to read, Korollocke, so most people won't bother to. If you find typing difficult then it's better to stick to all lower-case instead. I was a little dissappointed that Two-Face got so little screen time before being killed off. But this is feature movie world; things have to happen faster than they do in the comics. I think we can fairly assume that Dent is dead and won't be back (rumours are that Raz Al'Ghul is going to make a comeback - two villans returning from th grave would be stupid). Wow, there are still people who use all-caps? It’s difficult to read, Korollocke, so most people won’t bother to. If you find typing difficult then it’s better to stick to all lower-case instead.

I was a little dissappointed that Two-Face got so little screen time before being killed off. But this is feature movie world; things have to happen faster than they do in the comics. I think we can fairly assume that Dent is dead and won’t be back (rumours are that Raz Al’Ghul is going to make a comeback – two villans returning from th grave would be stupid).

]]> By: KOROLLOCKE http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-412637 KOROLLOCKE Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:59:31 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-412637 THE JOKER WAS SUPOSSED TO BE THE COME BACK VILLIAN, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A BIT TRICKY WITH HEATH GONE, BUT I GUESS YOU COULD RECAST. SEVERAL ACTORS HAVE PLAYED ICONIC ROLES LIKE BOND AND SUCH WITH OUT MUCH TROUBLE TRANSITIONING ONE ACTOR TO THE OTHER. THE JOKER WAS SUPOSSED TO BE THE COME BACK VILLIAN, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A BIT TRICKY WITH HEATH GONE, BUT I GUESS YOU COULD RECAST. SEVERAL ACTORS HAVE PLAYED ICONIC ROLES LIKE BOND AND SUCH WITH OUT MUCH TROUBLE TRANSITIONING ONE ACTOR TO THE OTHER.

]]> By: mo http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-412561 mo Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:08:25 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-412561 killing him off is probably as dumb as killing off darth maul, who was the only interesting character in any of those films. if the next movie gets a new director i'm sure he'll take the easy route and do the jason vorhees thing for 2face. killing him off is probably as dumb as killing off darth maul, who was the only interesting character in any of those films.

if the next movie gets a new director i’m sure he’ll take the easy route and do the jason vorhees thing for 2face.

]]> By: indecks http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-412529 indecks Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:50:26 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-412529 You seem to forget that the 'short distance' that Dent/Two-Face fell was also compounded with HALF OF HIS BODY BEING BURNED AWAY. After suffering that trauma and then falling - it would kill him. Dent's dead. The director said Dent's dead. The script said Dent's dead. The actor who played Dent said Dent's dead. The novelization said Dent's dead. Dent's dead. Face it. You seem to forget that the ’short distance’ that Dent/Two-Face fell was also compounded with HALF OF HIS BODY BEING BURNED AWAY. After suffering that trauma and then falling – it would kill him.

Dent’s dead.
The director said Dent’s dead.
The script said Dent’s dead.
The actor who played Dent said Dent’s dead.
The novelization said Dent’s dead.

Dent’s dead. Face it.

]]> By: Jeremy Davis http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-411871 Jeremy Davis Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:13:29 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-411871 I'm still unsure about his fate also. Heck even Rachel's. I've seen the movie a few times and can't be positive if I actually see an explosion behind her when the building blows up. Regardless, I noticed something my last time watching it that kinda explains why Batman can't hold on to that rail right before he plummets down with Dent. In the final fight with the Joker, Batman is shown to favor that arm a good bit, I believe after being mauled by the dogs. Anyways, just wanted to let you know, because I was thinking he was pretty much a wuss until I noticed that last time also. I’m still unsure about his fate also. Heck even Rachel’s. I’ve seen the movie a few times and can’t be positive if I actually see an explosion behind her when the building blows up.

Regardless, I noticed something my last time watching it that kinda explains why Batman can’t hold on to that rail right before he plummets down with Dent. In the final fight with the Joker, Batman is shown to favor that arm a good bit, I believe after being mauled by the dogs.

Anyways, just wanted to let you know, because I was thinking he was pretty much a wuss until I noticed that last time also.

]]> By: Siah http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-411688 Siah Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:12:35 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-411688 ATTICAAAAAaaaaAAAA!!! ATTICAAAAAaaaaAAAA!!!

]]> By: Flint http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-411671 Flint Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:53:58 +0000 http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/09/04/geek-rant-what-was-the-true-fate-of-harvey-dent-in-the-dark-knight/#comment-411671 Cry more. He's dead. Cry more. He’s dead.

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