John Locke was a philosofer during the 17th century and Jeremy Bentham (Lockes second name) was a Utilitarian during the 19th century, why these names?

What is Smokey?

I like Daniel’s character but his theory that the bomb would negate the energy from the Swan incident must be wrong, as they were ‘chosen’ to go there anyway, so stopping the release of the energy would be pointless. Although maybe not completely wrong as I like the theory that the explosion (if it did detonate) will return Jack etc back to present day. But surely that would be too simple, right? It IS Lost after all! :) I wonder if Jacob chose Daniel too.

I like the theory that the man in black possessed the body of Locke, it all seems to tie together. Although what I have trouble with is why the man in black didn’t kill Jacob sooner? Why should Locke play a pivotal role in this? Because of Richard’s trust in him? When Richard visited the young Locke, he was found not to be ‘gifted’.

I still find it interesting about the numbers and Hurley’s ‘luck’. And why is there a wheel to move the island? Who made it? There’s still not enough coverage.

Research the book that Jacob was reading “Everything that rises must converge” by Flannery O Conner. It actually bears a very close resemblance to the flashback storylines. “expose human weakness and explore important moral questions” “expose the sinful nature of humanity that often goes unrecognized in the modern, secular world.”

I think that Lost essentially is a story of the good and bad that humans do in the world, but I don’t believe it will reveal any religious connotations except for that what we have already seen with the Egyption artifacts.

I love Lost, I’ve watched it from day dot right from the very beginning. I’ll be sad when it’s over. I definitely think they will leave us hanging. I just hope series 6 is back to the full length of 24 episodes and not a short 17 again.

If you listen to the final couple of minutes you’ll notice the sounds like the time skip happening and seeing as the white light was also a significant aspect time skipping i defo believe that the explosion has caused them to travel to time. Also Faraday suggested they be as close as possible to the incident so that they would be contained within the time-skip (my thoughts)

As for the ‘V’ casting news. I don’t think we will see Juliet for a while, i think she will be like Desmond after he turned the fail safe key, and turn up out of nowhere some time after the Losties. So this shouldn’t really affect her work schedule.

So much to ponder!

Also i have to question how smokey is also the ‘dark’ man as Richard and the ‘others’ live in the jungle on Smokeys territory and walk through the underground temple where we know smokey to reside. So, whats with that?

R

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BUT, my response is on why I think Titus (No-Name) is really Jacob’s son.

In all sorts of Ancient mythology (and in LOST mythology) fathers have been extremely shitty to their sons. (See: Christian/Jack, Sawyers Murderous Dad/Sawyer, Locke’s Horrible Dad/Locke, Cheech/Hurley, Widmore/Faraday, etc.) In most cases (Lock being the exception….always.) the sons have merely remained a mess after the mental terrorism their fathers inflicted upon them. But, again, Locke takes it a step further. He actually has his father killed. Why? Because HE CAN’T DO IT HIMSELF.

Now, no-name is pretty much guaranteed to be Smokey, judging by his appearance to Ben as Alex, subsequent decree to “do whatever John Locke says”, and Locke’s disappearance during Ben’s judgement. (Also see Lostpedia’s screen-cap of an olllllld school picture of Anubis and Smokey……Jacob=Anubis, Blackman=Smokey) If that’s the case, then Smokey isn’t some sort of weapon that Jacob/the Island can unleash on the lostaways and others at will. And Smokey is much more than just a defense system for the Island.

I think that Jacob is the father, and is convinced that humanity has the capicity to change and progress (a very God-Like outlook) and will not threaten paradise (The Island) with ultimate destruction. Jacob brings specific people to the Island as part of his plan to prove this. His son, black-dude/Smokey, thinks that humans will invariably cause chaos and mess the Island up, which is why Smokey has no problem killing the extraneous people (like the pilot in the Pilot) to keep the humans in line. This is also why Blackman/Smokey manifests himself as certain people (Yemi/Eko, Christian/Jack), because it will manipulate those people into doing what he wants them to. It kept Jack unbalanced enough to want off the Island, it lured Eko to his death, and it made Ben do whatever Faux-Locke said. Smokey has been the only tangible part of the Island’s powers-that-be for most of the first 5 seasons, and now that makes sense, as Smokey was manipulating these events in order to find his loophole. (Get Jack and the crew of Jacob’s handpicked minions off the island. Kill Locke. Make Ben think he is no longer the leader. Use Ben to kill Jacob.) The problem lies in Jacob’s counter-moves. Why did the Lostaways flash off Ajira 316, looooonnng after the island started skipping through time? That’s Jacob sending them back. Why did Jacob send them back? Presumably to stop exactly what he knew was going to happen to him…to close the loophole.

Season 6 is going to start the same way the show did. One eye open, jungle reflected, and chaos on the beach. Why? This time, because Ajira 316 just crashed. And the time travelers will remember everything. It’ll take them half the frakkin’ season to figure out exactly what their destiny is, but once they do, its Blackman vs. Jacob, winner take all.

@RobbidaRobot – Knowing the Lost team, I’m expecting it to be what no one expects it to be. But it’s looking more and more like the religious implications are there, whether they’re the answers or not. Jacob and this other guy could just be Jacob and this other guy, but they’re definitely symbolic of something.

I wonder if Jacob – the “Good” character – keeps bringing people to the island in an attempt to prove that one day, some group of people will not war with these “Others.” That one day the two different civilizations will be able to get through that animalistic side of us that feels we need to defend against those we don’t know before we try and co-exist.

This is where the other guy – the “Evil” character – tells him it’s not worth it, that it always ends the same, in destruction.

All very similar to a world we may or may not currently live in. This could all just end up being one six-season long after school special message!

Here’s a theory, instead of that tired old “white good black bad” dynamic what if different organizing systems are in conflict. Jacob seems like a kindly but meddlesome “godlike” essence. A paternalistic figure. But when you mature you resent the paternal and strike off on your own created path. What if the unnamed man who knows Jacob is just representative of a different philosophy, not the representation of evil. Perhaps he represents a more progressive dynamic of man’s place in the chain of being. One which places the responsibility of man’s ascent or descent in his hands, heart and mind not in supernatural beings who think they know what best for man.

And not the Smoke Monster. I always thought that the Smoke Monster was a physical manifestation of the people’s fear like in the Tempest.

In Buddhist thought, which has been explored in the Lost series over the years in subtle ways, there is a apt koan which deals with the killing of Jacob: If you see Buddha on the road, kill him. Such a violent act for such a gentle and giving soul why? Because we get lost on our path to enlightenment when we get attached to the outcome of the journey. Seeing the Buddha is the key sign of the delusion of attachment. Just like Ben is attached to his identity as the leader of the island.

Also Joseph Campbell states that the hero has to come to a point in the journey where he must kill his father/mother/god to move forward. Wasn’t this the test for the real John Locke to become the leader on the island – the task he conned someone else (James) into completing. Ironically John Locke in all his flavors tends to eschew his heroic duty and have another do the deed for him – then take the credit for it. That is the banality of evil to me: to avoid taking necessary action then to thrive of the labors of others like a vampire.

My favorite hero Arjuna dealt with this dilemma but luckily he had a great teacher to guide him through it.

I enjoy the interactions between John and Ben. I find annoying the interaction between Juliet and Kate, forever locked in a stupid competition over to decent guys. There’s two men and two women. What’s the difficulty? These two women serve as an example of how confused illogical women are portrayed to be. I wish the women had more interesting drama like the minor characters have. Juliet was interesting when she was a member of the others. She lost her edge when she hooked up with Sawyer. Look at Miles- he gets to interact with the father he thought abandoned him.

Love the myths.

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RR