This past summer, Fox attempted to revive Fantastic Four with a bold new vision. Starring a young diverse cast consisting of Miles Teller, Kate Mara, Jamie Bell, and Michael B. Jordan, the film would be directed by Josh Trank, but a number of behind-the-scenes problems revealed that it was a troubled shoot. It wasn’t so much of “creative differences” that fueled the conflict, but the shocking allegations of “combative and abusive behavior” by the director, along with Trank reportedly trying to control what the cast could say during the film’s press day, not to mention that he had no faith in the film whatsoever.

In the end, the Fantastic Four reboot tanked at the box office and was widely panned by both critics and audiences, in such a way that it gave hope to the idea that the rights to Marvel’s first family may revert back to Marvel Studios. And that seems to be the case, as a hot rumor says Marvel has struck a deal with Fox to get the rights back to Fantastic Four. More on the story here below.

Fox being limited to two Marvel properties doesn’t give them much room to play around with as opposed to their competitors Marvel Studios. Unless they can map out their cinematic universe or make a deal like Sony did with Marvel, then Fox is relegated to using just the Fantastic Four and X-Men properties. The former had a reboot recently, which just tanked at the box office and was panned by critics and audiences alike. Then, Fantastic Four‘s director Josh Trank came out a day before the film’s release criticizing Fox for their interference and claiming the studio prevented everyone from seeing his vision of the film. Days later, numerous production problems were revealed, and that Trank tried to control what the cast would say during the film’s press junket. Even a major scene that was shown in trailers was omitted from the final cut.

With Fantastic Four earning a bad reputation and low grossing box office numbers, it was almost certain that there was going to be no sequel. But leave it to Simon Kinberg to hold on hope. While helping promote The Martian at the Toronto International Film Festival, the producer talked about being “really focused” on making a “second one.” More on the possibility of Fantastic Four 2 in the story below.

This might sound like a severe understatement, but 20th Century Fox’s contractually obligated Fantastic Four reboot is not really performing to the expectations of anyone except perhaps those of us who have followed its troubled development for years and viewed the underwhelming trailers.

The studio’s latest attempt to launch their other major Marvel Comics property as a sequel-ready franchise to rival their X-Men series has been slaughtered by critics, pilloried by audiences, and right now, nothing short of the news that Fox has entered negotiations with Marvel Studios to retake ownership of the First Family of the House of Ideas’ cinematic destiny will satisfy the Fantastic Four’s furiously frothing fan base.

A new Fantastic Four movie was just released from Fox. This… is not about that movie. This is about the way we fans talk about Fantastic Four movies, and how we may, in fact, be getting it wrong.

I’ve seen it happen enough to be a foregone conclusion: when discussing Marvel comics on film, if you bring up the Fantastic Four, somebody will return volley with, “If you want to see a perfect Fantastic Four movie, go watch The Incredibles.” I’ve done it myself — MANY times — and that particular refrain got louder and more frequent the closer we got to the release of the latest Fox effort. But, hearing some variation of that statement repeated so often kinda got me wondering… are we actually right about that?