There has been much rumor and speculation that Batman is in David Ayer’s Suicide Squad. Set in the universe that Warner Brothers is establishing, two of the Dark Knight’s most notorious villains, Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and Joker (Jared Leto) are in the film. So it is pretty easy to make the assumption that Batman is in the movie as well because of those connective threads. But no one has confirmed this, which only adds to the rumors.

But one of the most interesting things about Suicide Squad is that the film won’t be just about Batman and The Joker, but also some of DC’s greatest villains. So of course of the biggest questions is, can a film about Batman’s greatest rogue survive without Batman in the film? Well, we probably won’t get an answer to that question, as a new rumor says that Batman is in Suicide Squad, but will be shown in a way never before seen in previous franchises.

The new report comes from Latino Review’s El Mayimbe, who has a reliable track record when it comes to geek news. He posted the full scoop on his Instagram page, which you can check out here below. But just in case you can’t see it, here is the text he posted.

This only reinforces the previous reports that Batman would only be seen on surveillance cameras or as a shadowy figure. It also falls in line with the last rumor, where it was reported that the Suicide Squad‘s Joker would draw parallels form Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns, and that Leto was bulking up for a particular scene where he is doing push ups while being interrogated by Amanda Waller (Viola Davis).

By making Batman a Boogeyman-esque character, the film doesn’t loose sight of the main story, and establishes a connection that it does take place in the same universe as Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

Details about THE GOD DAMN #BATMAN in #SUICIDESQUAD! #SPOILER #WARNING According to sources, in the film Batman is some sort of big boogeyman that the government REALLY hates. Get this, prior to the events in #BatmanvSuperman, THE JOKER is the only one to really ever meet him or know him and that's why he's so important to Amanda Waller. They have footage of Batman in action which they watch. There is a bit of dialogue where they say Batman is the key to tracking down all "the supers." Very cool stuff. #DC #DCCU #DCCOMICS #THEJOKER #AMANDAWALLER #THEDARKKNIGHTRETURNS

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