Audiences never knew how the Jonathan Crane became the Scarecrow or how the Joker really got those scars, and they will probably never know the true story behind Bane. But a recent interview reveals what could have been Bane’s back story in The Dark Knight Rises. Check it out below.

Much like the previous Batman villains in Christopher Nolan‘s Dark Knight Trilogy, there was no explanation as to who Bane was or how he came to be. Sure The Dark Knight Rises hints at it once, but it is so subtle and so late into the film, that when it does appear, there is just not enough time to process it. Time constraints and numerous plots prevented Nolan from truly fleshing out his story. Now, a new interview from costume designer Lindy Hemming hints at how Bane would have been introduced into the film properly.